Dr. Bryan Myers – Recognition, Prevention and Control of Swine Diseases

actually I spend most of my time practice ain't no northeast Iowa north across the hole probably top half of Iowa southern third of Minnesota and then also into Illinois and some of the states further east but I spend the majority of my time in pretty hog dense areas so on any given day I probably deal with some disease or another so this talk really is is is pointed towards people that spend all day long in big barns ok so from a raising hands how many guys are in big barns every single day all right that's good good stuff that's that's my goal here is talk about what we can do in in pig farms also if you got questions or you think of questions later on I'll throw some business cards down for you here on the table you could shoot me an email call me anything like that so anyway let's get into it here recognition prevention and control of swine diseases really it starts before the pigs ever hit the barn okay we need to have a plan in place what we're going to do as soon as these pigs come into the site okay first thing is before they come was the barn clean is it clean underneath the feeders yeah great place for e.coli to grow guys underneath feeders so underneath the feeders great place for e.coli to grow if you've got ecoli issues on every group great place for e.coli to grow if we're not flipping those feeders up cleaning them out load out you got to remember that's the first place that these clean healthy pigs are going to come into that's also the last place that you just backed up a truck that was that a packing plant okay so definitely a place to make sure we're clean another place that gets missed is the office entryway sometimes I'll go to Barnes and they did a great job cleaning the inside of the barn everything looks good I go into the office the workroom there and it's a disaster okay so want to make sure we're not missing that I'm a big believer in using synergize as a disinfectant dose on that's an ounce per gallon that's my number one disinfectant that I go to in most situations make sure the barns dry really it's the cheapest disinfectants you can buy you know heat kills a lot of bugs okay dryness kills a lot of bugs okay so make sure the barns dry make sure the barns warm that doesn't mean you turn up the heaters when the truck arrives okay that means you start warming up the barn the night before okay how's the barn setup how are the feeders set most of the time is going and you wash the barn you open the feeders all the way up so the water can drain out that type of thing but if you did a good job just infecting that barn what's gonna be in the bottom of that feeder it's gonna be a little bit of water in there it's gonna have disinfectant in it I don't know for sure but I think synergize tastes like crap okay so that's the and that's the first place we want those pigs to go is to start Belling up eat so make sure that we've either sponged out those feeders or we've blow them out with a leaf blower or that type of thing make sure that we got the feeders clean make sure the feeds been delivered it's in the right bin with the right slide open again there water make sure that if you're using cup waters that it's clean and dry there again that we don't have synergize in the bottom of that so the first thing they taste isn't synergize okay make sure our ventilation is set up if we use a curve make sure it's been set so that the new pigs are ready to it's ready to go for the new pigs and that you know when the pigs are coming then also I like to have a plan in place what are we going to do with these pigs when they come in okay I'm a big proponent of utilizing all space in a barn but we do need to have some pens set aside for small pigs or for hospital pigs or for graduation pants okay so I need to have a plan set up there okay and we'll skip into this is a typical 1200 head barn that I deal with a lot in my area and you can see that we have pens set up there and based on us getting 1200 pigs in I'm gonna put a hundred and five pigs and all of these pens here okay then I took this last pen here and I designed that so that I can you do better individual Pig care in the barn okay so I had to overstock my general population pens a little bit more to generate some empty space here to use for my hospital pen my graduation pen will do go over that a little bit more later but you know have this in place so you know how you're going to stock your pens and that type of thing okay make sure that before your pigs come that you know what you're going to do okay have the pigs been vaccinated for mycoplasma or circle virus or are you gonna have to do that okay you know are we gonna vaccinate for illy itis are we going to vaccinate for your syphilis you know guys it's important I try to always write down my plan for my producers okay this is what we're gonna do guys okay write it down on a piece of paper and it's in the office okay we have a plan in place what's our feed med program gonna be what's our water med program gonna be okay have it outline okay it may change two weeks later but at least have a baseline to where you're starting out I'm proponent of sort and pigs by size when they first come in I know not everybody's probably going to agree with me does that mean that I want to sort every Pig top to bottom nope does that mean I want to sort the bottom pigs off yeah so I want to sort maybe the smallest 5% of the pigs off okay when they come in depending on on how your pigs are coming in maybe you're gonna sort the bottom two percent off three percent five percent bottom line is sort the smallest pigs off this pig am I going to go in and resource this whole pin here and say that pig is bigger than this pig no but you see that little ham pig in there he's the one I'm going to sort off okay the rest I'm gonna leave alone but that little ham pig there you can see that he's going to struggle at the feeder when he's next to these two big pigs okay so that's what I mean by sorting the pigs by size okay make sure you're leaving some pens open this shows a nursery pen here there you can see a normal pen I just left one pen empty to sort off pigs in okay you got to need some extra space to sort pigs off okay worst-case scenario is our best-case scenario I guess you could say is doc the pigs never got sick we didn't have to sort any of them off what do you do then after they've been in there month you just go in and sort some pigs down to fill that space start out with the empty space though initially a lot of times when I fill a barn I want to have if I got multiple pens available I'll have some where I'm putting my healthy fall behind pigs small pigs that come in off the trailer and then I need some empty pens that we're going to use to pull treat pigs so okay so when I talk about individual Pig care I want to know how you're identifying the pigs that you're treating okay nothing bugs me more than to go to a site and I ask the person how many pigs are you treat today he says all 25 or 30 a day and I walk in the barn and I don't see a single mark on a pig so does that mean he's not marking them or does that mean that guy just kind of liked me okay so I like to use a marking system and I really encourage my producers to use a marking system different colors different parts of the body you know the number of objections the day of the week I don't care what it is develop a system use it okay so you know whether you use a paint stick spray whatever you know but use it okay as an example maybe you mark him by the day of the week pigs that I treat on Monday and Tuesday I put a red mark on him doc ones I treat on Wednesday and Thursday I put a green mark on ones I treat on Friday and Saturday I put a blue mark on a doc I'm gonna be honest I don't treat pigs on Sunday that's fine okay we got a plan in place though maybe you do it by the injection okay first injection I put a red mark on that pig if I need to come back and treat him a second time I put a green mark on that pig develop a system okay it respects you from a barn if you it's kind of hard to see but if you look close I got pigs with pink marks there I got pigs with blue marks there they're treating pigs okay make sure that we're looking at every single pig every day okay if we want to catch pigs early enough to get them treated so they respond we need to look at every Pig every day and if you do the math should take about two to three seconds per Pig that means on a 1,200 head barn it should take you 40 to 60 minutes to walk through that barn and look at every single Pig okay that means that you shouldn't be able to chore 1,200 head barn in 10 minutes okay it's gonna take you 40 to 60 minutes to look at a 1200 head barn okay to be successful the pig needing treatment needs to be found at the proper time not too late more important than deciding what drug to use is getting the pig pulled at the right time okay more important than decide do I use exceed or do I use Jackson I'm more concerned about getting that pig treated with something early okay the right time so head to tail assessment we're looking at that the pig we're looking for discharges out of the nose is that spine showing is that pig thumping you know does he have a full belly does he have swollen joints anything abnormal on that pig okay so I tend to go with the ABC type thing when I'm looking at pigs okay all sick pigs start their disease as an a pig okay actually an AE pig doesn't look too bad yet okay you still got some some decent flesh he's not real rough haired doesn't look really tough okay he looks like that okay if you look at this pig here actually he doesn't look too bad but if you look he just looks a little depressed his ears are back this pig here starting to lose some belly their ears are kind of laid back looks kind of depressed this big here starting to look kind of depressed doesn't look too bad great place to find these type of pigs sometimes is laying against the the gating there sometimes a lot of times I found these pigs are laying pretty close to the feeder okay reason being is they don't feel very good so they may go up nibble a little bit then they go lay down at the closest place okay so you know this pigs don't look too bad yet okay this is the time to catch them alright Abbey Pig remember Abbey Pig started out as an a pig maybe 12 hours ago maybe eight hours ago maybe two hours ago maybe 24 hours ago but B pigs they're definitely starting to show more clinical signs they're probably more Gant we're losing more belly more flesh spine starting to show more may be rougher hair coated and and they may be dirty look at the reason they're dirty looking is because they're laying there and their land they don't feel good so they go and lay easiest place they can get maybe a shitty part of the pen okay so be pigs you can see that these pigs just look a little tougher than that last slide I showed you can see that they're showing don't have as much belly there there Gant they look more lissa so you can see this pig here start get some purple ears more hairy look in there they're just starting to look tougher okay it's going to be tougher to get this pig to respond to treatment isn't it versus that those pigs we showed in the previous one see Pig okay see pigs look really tough okay severely Gant spines showing there there's severely depressed they look really bad okay they look like that okay what's the chances of that pig responded to treatment not near as good of that pig respond into treatment versus those ones I showed you in those first slides is it okay unfortunately I see a lot of barns where by the time a pig gets by the time a pig gets treatment they're at this stage okay as much as I hate to say it guys the best treatment for a pig that looks like that or like this here might not be an antibiotic injection what might it be euthanasia that's right we missed the ball you know and as much as I hate to say it from a welfare standpoint euthanasia is a treat in a case like this okay so we want to catch those pigs early why do we want to do a good job treating these pigs catching them early getting them treated that type of thing first off guys you know we're in the pig business because we don't want to work in a factory all day long we care about animals right it's the right thing to do you know ethically it's the right thing to do to get those pigs treated soon okay there's a high level of success when we identify that pig early we treat it with the right drug Krait dose the right time early okay if you see that early appeared twice they're identifying it early early big deal sooner you catch them the better off you are so there's my a pig again doesn't look too bad I think if we treat him we got a pretty good chance of success we might not even have to sort this pig off we might be able to leave him in the pen where he was at with his cohort pen pen mates we give him a shot of an antibiotic we mark him we can check him a few days later but we may be able to catch that pig sooner enough we don't need to sort him off yet this pig here he's tougher looking if we leave him in the pen with a hundred and four other pen mates he's probably going to get pushed back isn't he we probably need to get him sorted off okay need to get him into a hospital pen he needs probably some extra nutrition some extra heat some extra space as well as that antibiotic okay see pigs there I think where most of the time we're too late you know you know if we if we have a pig that looks like he's been down on his side for 12 hours paddlin we're probably not going to get him you know cured we got a pig that looks like this chance of treatments really low euthanasia is probably the best option okay hopefully we catch them in that a period as an a pig if we happen to miss them as an a pig we catch them as a B pig we shouldn't be catching them at this stage here okay you can see how those pigs progress there so it's critical that we we catch these pigs early okay then the one thing that I see sometimes in in situations where guys are doing a really good job catching the pigs early we need to make sure that we're looking at them reevaluating those pigs to see how our our treatment was you know did they respond to treatment have they started going up to the the feeder are they starting to belly up you know we need to follow up with those pigs just not pick a pig out of the general population I give them a shot of exceed I throw them in the hospital pen forget about it you need to go back reevaluate those pigs so there again need to pull those pigs out as soon as possible as soon as they're identified because you know 24 hours means a huge difference on it on a sick Pig okay sort and pull down pins you know variety of sizes shapes that type of thing one thing I really want to stress here is extra nutrition is essential for these sort off pigs okay the reason I say that is a lot of times the first time somebody asked questions somebody asked me is what do I shoot what do I shoot these pigs with that I'm sorting off doc you know shot shooting with exceed human bait roll penicillin what okay that's always the most the biggest question that people ask me really another important thing is nutrition okay why okay couple things first off a lot of the if you think about it you give them a shot of exceed or Jackson there's no calories in that okay so there's no calories in exceed or Jackson we got to get extra nutrition into that pig okay the other thing that's really important is extra heat okay that antibiotic shot doesn't keep that pig warm okay he's running a fever or he's got some diarrhea or something like that he's going to be cold so we need extra heat a lot of the diseases that we deal with now are viruses aren't they deal with pers we deal with influenza we deal with PE D Delta coronavirus t GE they're viruses okay how effective are antibiotics against viruses they don't work right so yeah getting though an antibiotic injection into that big is important but this is just as important right here okay so if I have a hospital pen I like to have some high energy products available that we can use for those pigs so that if that pig only eats a little handful of feed it's got a lot of calories in it okay and if that pig really doesn't feel good I want to have some sort of calories as a liquid so that he may go up and lick a little liquid before he eats feed so so haven't so some of that available is is important so I like using there's there's tons of them out there you know there's there's electrolytes you can mix with water there's gel products there's really good pellets out there high energy products in your hospital pen okay next thing is make sure that it's easy for those sick pigs to access those high energy products okay I'm a big believer in using some sort of gruel pans or something like that on these post weaning pigs that are maybe weaned you know a few days up to a few weeks so that you can mix up some gruel in there you know put a little bit of pellets in the bottom of the pan then I add some water to it then I add some baby Pig restart so I have this nice really sweet-smelling cereal okay so great wafer get those bottom end pigs those sick pigs to get going okay nutrition okay there's an example there there you can see I I like using these Roe techni feeders a lot in wean to finish barns and and even in nurseries okay I'm a huge believer of these these feeders right here so anyway there we've made up a feeder fill it with pellets and and water a minute later you can see that things are starting to come up to the pan within a couple minutes that pans surrounded okay these were actually I took these literally in a wean to finish barn that I happen to be in there I filled up the the gruel feeder and I mean they come right up okay so no antibiotics in any of this here we're dealing with nutrition okay heat okay there again we know these pigs are going to be running running fevers okay if you've got a cold or you got flu or something like that and you're at home and you're running a fever do you know what do you do you sit in the recliner or you lay on the couch you put blankets on you because you know you're shivering you're cold okay you need to have extra heat available okay I like personally using heat from above whether it's a heat lamp or a brooder but I like using heat from above okay because I think it does a better job keeping that pig warm you know there are some people that use heat mats especially at nurseries I'm much more a fan of these here I guess and then the other thing is is having mats that allow the pigs to sleep on that doesn't pull body heat away okay if you lay it have a pig that lays down on concrete that concrete's gonna pull heat out of the pig okay if they lay down on one of these mats here it's not going to pull heat out of the pig like concrete does okay so having something solid for those pigs to lay on so nothing fancy here this is this is a hospital pin in a 1,200 head weaned to finish Barney okay so you can see here it's a little hard to see you can see we got a brooder hanging above them right there okay we also have a board here over the concrete slats okay we've got an extra feed source air that we can do you know deal with these pigs here you can't see it on this picture I apologize but there actually was a gruel pan right here too so got everything it doesn't look that fancy it's got everything we need in that hospital pin there there you can see a hospital pin and a nursery here they're actually using an electric heat mat really for the only reason is this guy used to Farrow up until like a year before this he's got all these heat mats it was left from farrowing crates he says I'm gonna use that as my supplemental heat my nursery fine got a couple gruel pans there here you can see a wean to finish barn we're using these disposable mats there so the pigs can lay down that they don't have the heat pulled off them there's a nice gruel pan or pellets they're do so the big question that I always get asked is what antibiotics do I use there is no one antibiotic that's going to work for everybody every time okay so more importantly like I'm I talked before is more important than what antibiotic is getting that pig pulled early and treated early okay so what antibiotic do you use the first thing is we honor what diseases or bacteria are we treating okay that's the most important thing because doesn't make a difference if penicillin is cheap and exceed is expensive if penicillin doesn't work for the bug we're treating okay so most important thing is find out what you're treating okay how long will it in injection treatment lasts that's a big deal for some people because they say you know doc I take care of six barns I need something that's gonna last a little bit longer because I can't keep repeating injections every day okay I know it's gonna be a little more expensive but I need something that's gonna last a little bit longer so and then the last thing that I consider is cost okay if there's two antibiotics that are gonna last exactly the same amount of time they're gonna treat exactly the same thing then I start looking at cost but that's so far down that I probably shouldn't have even put it on there okay so you know here and I don't expect you to be able to see this exactly and all that but here was a chart that I've used with producers before you know where you can see where we have antibiotics listed across the top we got bacteria listed across the bottom and based on label you know these are the antibiotics that should work on these bugs okay as an example at the bottom here I've got ecoli here okay more than likely penicillin is not gonna work to treat e.coli I don't care if it's a cheapest antibiotic there is it's not going to work we're not gonna use it so make sure that you know what bugs you're treating if the antibiotic is going to work against it or not the next thing is when I look at treatment cost okay I don't look a lot at bottle price of an antibiotic I look at how much is it going to cost me to treat a pig for a certain period of time okay if you look at the cost of Drax and it looks pretty damn expensive doesn't it when you get that bottle of Drax in it look holy crap that stuff's expensive okay but you know it can treat a lot of pounds you know the original dragon was a cc to 88 pounds of dragon 25 is CC to 22 pounds but anyway if you look at it that bottles dang expensive you know same thing with exceed a bottle of exceed whatever it is 85 90 bucks looks pretty de expensive compared to that $6 bottle of penicillin right okay but really what I look at is you got to look at how much is it going to cost per pound to treat that pig how many days of coverage are you going to get from that injection how much does it cost treat per day so what would a five day treatment cost okay so if we look at penicillin and maybe it's gonna cost us three cents a day to treat that twenty pound pig five days of injections it's gonna cost fifteen cents Labor's free right wrong you know if it doesn't get done you know but fifteen cents for the actual antibiotic okay exceed you're going to get five-day treatment with one injection it's gonna cost you thirty seven cents okay it's cost you twice as much but you gave one injection right so you saved a lot of time is the exceed going to cover more than your penicillin probably so you really need to evaluate what antibiotics you're going to use on a regular basis sit down have that conversation with your veterinarian your caretakers your whoever you know but have that conversation this is the plan that we're going to do and this is why so all antibiotics are cheap if they're effective okay if it costs me 75 cents to treat this pig and it works it's cheap right I just saved $40 pig with 75 cents okay all i antibiotics are expensive if they don't work okay if I treat them with exceed it cost me 75 cents whatever it is I save a 40 pound pig that was cheap right if I treated it with a nickels worth of penicillin and it died that was pretty expensive wasn't it so they're cheap if they are effective okay as an example treating some pigs with strep okay we can treat it with three injections of penicillin we spend a dime one injection of exceed we spend 37 cents okay both treatments are probably going to work right so both of them are probably going to work against the strap okay there's strep more likely to be resistant to penicillin or exceed nope both of them are probably going to work well penicillin be as effective against as exceed against other pathogens probably not we're gonna get some other good out of giving them the exceed verses of penicillin okay so you know you know is cheaper better if we don't have nothing other than strep maybe it's okay so if we're looking at cost which is longer-lasting which is more convenient which is broader spectrum you need to decide you know what drug you're gonna use and and stick with it so you know somebody to say what antibiotic do I use for general fall behind pigs following weaning that may have little diarrhea may have a little cough they just don't look right my ain't doing right pigs that I'm pulling out okay so you know you can say well I can use exceed that gives me seven-day therapy for 37 cents I could use bait all that gives me two days of therapy for 53 cents I'm gonna choose Exede because it's a little bit longer lasting and it's a little bit cheaper or I'm gonna choose bait roll yep it's a little more expensive but you know what I see a little diarrhea on some of my pigs I think they've got some e.coli I'm gonna use the bait roll okay I don't I know I'm not here to tout one antibiotic over the other you know but you just need to to consider these things when making a decision okay another pet peeve of mine I guess a little bit is accurate dosing of injectable antibiotics a lot of these antibiotics now are what we call low dose exceed a cc 244 pounds you know and you're going to treat a weaned pig that weighs 12 pounds well how much are you going to give him you know there was the people that make exceed was pretty darn effective it's not like you can dilute that stuff out that was the I'm old okay I remember diluting out antibiotics to get them in lower volumes you can't do that okay so I'm a big fan of using what I call these these low dose type syringes you know where I can put a bottle of something on this syringe I can wheel that syringe down so that it shoots 0.2 CCS or 0.3 cc's okay big fan of that because not only do we get the accurate dose into them but we don't waste it as well okay so an example protocol this farm say yes we're going to sort off pigs for treatment into the hospital pin we're going to give them a shot of exceed we're going to put a red mark on them we're gonna re-evaluate those pigs in five days if that pig is fully recovered we're going to move into the graduation pen give him a little extra time some better pellets that type of thing if he's looking better but he's not fully recovered we're going to retreat him with it see but a blue mark on him this time if he's looking significantly worse we're gonna euthanize okay this is an example this is not something that's going to work for everybody this is an example of a plan okay in addition to that in our hospital pen we're going to have two heat lamps for extra heat we're going to have a creek feeder for extra nutrition where we're going to mix some pellets some baby pig restart made into a gruel and we're gonna feed it twice a day my graduation pin is just going to have a higher energy diet of some pellets versus what's being fed in the rest of the general population so I'm gonna pull a pig out of this pin right here give them a shot of exede he's gonna go into my hospital pin there which has gruel it has an extra heat lamp that type of thing hopefully five days later he's looking better we can put him into this graduation pen which we have the feeder there that has higher nutrition in – maybe some pellets in it versus the grind and mix that are out in here so that's our plan for this this barn there's an example of a nursery hospital pen doesn't look the prettiest there but we've got our feeders there we've got our heat there you've got pigs that look like they need to be in there okay there's that same picture I showed before of a a wean to finish hospital pen there you can see a gruel feeder there you can see one over here there's our brooder there's our mat feeder to finish barns even in those we need to have a hospital pen okay you need to have a place to sort that Pig off that's got a bum leg okay that pig that maybe has prolapse sort him off just a pig going backwards okay even in theater to finish barns we need to have you know a hospital pen okay how do you know when a barn is sick okay the whole barn you know biggest things are like at looking at to determine what you're going to do with this barn is water usage huge deal record water usage every day okay and hopefully you can do it at about at the same time now some controllers you can hook up to that it'll automatically read your water usage every day okay if you have to read it off the water meter try to do it close to the same time every day so you know how much water they're going through okay if we see a significant drop in water you you know disappearance they're sick right what's going on if you see a significant increase in water usage you got a leak don't you maybe you've got a nipple that's leaking you've got a water that's running over or something right so if you was going through 1,800 gallons yesterday and today you look at it you went through 2500 gallons pigs didn't drink that much more okay it went into the pit somewhere right what do you have to do with that then you got to haul it out right so you just wasted water okay so look water usage look at the bank pigs I like barns where I can come in to the office entry work away look through a window before I go into the barn so that I can look into that window down there and see just how the pigs are laying okay are they piled up wet yucky looking are they laid out real nice that type of thing okay listen okay you ever go in that barn and everything's going good you go in there the door shan't slams behind you and woohoo I mean pigs are flying all over the place they're happy they're wolfen everything's good okay know what a normal barn sounds like then you got barns where you go in there and the door slams and they get up and start coughing you know obviously listen when you go into a barn okay how does the air feel you know if you've got pigs that are in there that are sick that are scouring and the floors are all wet it's gonna feel more humid in the barn okay so just I say look listen and feel when you go into a barn okay water meds okay I don't want you to look at the exact numbers here but you know water meds when more than five percent of the pigs are showing clinical science okay depending on your operation that number might be two percent it might be five percent it might be ten percent five percent it's kind of where I things out a little bit if I got five percent of the pigs sick I'm gonna put something in the water if my daily injections continue to keep going up every day then I look at at putting water meds in okay the big thing is if you put water medication and you put antibiotics in the water make danger that you're still injecting those individual pigs okay sick pigs don't eat feed and they don't drink water if they're really sick so I've got to keep injecting injected pigs they're again one antibiotic do I choose you got to know what you're treating work with your veterinarian to know what antibiotics you should be putting in the water there okay the other thing you need to consider with with water antibiotics is if I'm treating the pneumonia thing I need to make sure that that antibiotic that goes into the water is absorbed into the pig through their whole system okay an example of that is neomycin you know neil mix or Jenna med those drugs are not absorbed up into the system they stay in the gut which is okay because most of the time we use those to treat gut issues but don't be thinking that you're going to put Neil myosin in the water and it's going to get into the lungs because it doesn't happen so so there again have a a chart have the discussion with your veterinarian what antibiotics you should be using in the water here again like you know it doesn't make a difference if if OTC is the cheapest drug there is and I can put it in the water for almost nothing but if I'm treating you coli it's not gonna work okay there's not a whole lot of antibiotics like on this chart here that work against you coli so make sure you're choosing the same the right drug there again you'll notice a lot with water meds there is not a huge variance here when it comes to cost of water medications okay it's really more important to make darn sure you got the right drug in there okay because they're all pretty close to reasonably the same price okay so get a diagnosis how many of the pigs are our affected last thing to consider is what's the cost because that's all going to be pretty close feed medication main thing to remember as sick pigs don't eat okay the other thing is feed medication levels are set that's the rules okay but you know sick pigs don't eat so I usually say I want to have a plan in a budget in place for normal production okay this is an example you know we're gonna our end one rations gonna have dinner guard in two and then three is gonna have Mecca Docs and four no medication FY and ennogard okay this is our plan for normal production everything goes good this plan seems to work pretty good for us because sometimes I see a little e.coli about this time period here Becca doc seems to control that you know I see a little bit of maybe some lameness maybe a little cough at this stage here so we run that it's kind of a preventative and they're running Thailand at the end for ill ìitís control okay have a plan in place for normal production okay on an individual group basis Medicaid is needed with injections or water okay so this is our plan for our flow you know I get 1200 pigs every nine weeks this is our plan here okay here I had a group that got sick I'm going to inject them with this antibiotic we're gonna put this water you know so feed medications are not very effective when dealing with an acute disease okay so I don't hear it quite so much but I used to always hear you know my pigs are coughing doc what antibiotic can I put in the feed well you can put OTC in the feed John or you can put CTC in the feed or dinner guard CTC but you know what if they're sick how much feed are they eaten you know Wow doesn't look like they're eating much because I should have had to grind yesterday and the bins still half full okay so feed medications not very effective at treating acute disease okay overall medication use feed medications not a replacement for water medications water or feed medications not a replacement for injectables because sick pigs don't drink much they usually don't eat nothing okay I think it's our job to practice responsible antibiotic use okay take the appropriate steps to minimize the need for antibiotics okay you know maybe those pigs don't need a shot of exceed or bait role that small Pig he's a small healthy Pig he was just he just got the hind teeth on that sow he's a little bit smaller coming in does he need a shot of antibiotics he probably just needs a little better nutrition right okay make sure that you're looking at the advantages disadvantages of all antibiotics and just use them when they provide a benefit okay going forward make sure that your remember antibiotic use does require veterinary client patient relationship as of a year from now all injectable and water-soluble antibiotics will be prescription only okay that's some of the new rules that are coming down the pipeline here so you will need to be working close with your veterinarian on on your antibiotic therapies and that type of thing and many feed grade antibiotics will be BFD okay CTC as an example you used to be able to not need a VFD you will need a VFD going forward with that


  1. Hi DOc. Bryan, Please I have concerns with my farm. With a particular pig that has part of its penis tucked permanently and and to the others they are loosing weight rapidly that they look unkept. Please any advice on what I can to to help the despite the fact that I ensure they are been fed.
    Also, how often is it advisable for me to dewarm my animals?

  2. This was very informative and indeed helpful.

  3. lol nasty

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