Diet as Disease Prevention

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society in the country with more than 1,800 members tonight we have a special we have a surprise in addition to our unknown speaker we have a special feature a short we have a videotape a four-minute speech that is very difficult to hear so we're hoping everyone will be very quiet and listen very hard I think we can just barely make it this speech is given by red Fournier red are you here so when I just stand up Brad is an eighth grader at Punahou and red has the unique almost unique distinction of being the gold medal winner of this year's Damen speech contest and guess what he spoke on vegetarianism so we're just so proud of me isn't that right Brad is over there sitting with his grandmother Lynn where they're members of the vegetarian society and Lynn is vegan along a lifelong vegan I believe and rat rat stew and his mother and his sister are also lifelong vegan so it's really quite wonderful what we're going to do is show the four-minute speech itself listening very hard and then rad will come up and answer just a couple of questions if anyone has any before I introduce our main speaker for tonight good morning everyone I have a question for you what comes to your mind when you think of a vegetarian a small ski carrot nine members floor f—ing weirdo kind of like me well think again what do horses why does elephants and gorillas have in common they're all long powerhouses and you guessed it they're vegetarians the fact is children body so much more like plant eaters or herbivores and carnivores carnivores have claws and sure point to party plant eaters and humans don't carnivores have intestinal tracts that are one-third the length of herbivores in humans allowing them to get all of that decomposing meat out of their bodies quickly enough it sits and Rob and releases toxins which brings me to the health benefits of being a vegetarian according to the American Medical Association's 90 to 97 percent of heart disease would be prevented by a vegetarian diet our bodies just can't handle all that mmm back in Westerville so plaque fills up in our arteries and causes heart attacks and strokes stutters also linked cancer to meat eating kidney disease to kidneys with our body of toxins so much meaning diet overworks them and they fail speaking of toxins these animals we are full of tranquilizers antibiotics hormones and 2700 other chemicals and drugs there's sodium nitrate that is used to make the meat look nice and red instead of the unappetizing scabbit brown fur of a dead body there is sample Sylvester a growth hormone that for health reasons has been banned in 32 countries also the meat industry is infamous for not enforcing proper health standards carcasses are often contaminated with cockroaches rats drool and rough yeah but what about proteins people always say according to the American Medical Association all the protein we need is in great beans nuts and vegetables and in fact too much safety is far more often the problem then not enough really immersing studies show that too much protein quote reduces the body's energy and disability to recover from fatigue unquote now here's an economic consideration listen to these figures over 90% of all grain produced in America grow 16 livestock for every 16 pounds of brain that's fed to cattle we only get one count of meat back we actually produce enough food for everyone on the planet but if we fitted to the animals and then we eat them then of course there's the ethical considerations that thing of vegetarian is just a more to many with life some might say well you vegetarians you you rip apart the head of the cauliflower and you cut off part of the artichoke and with your teeth you tear into the tail blush of the helpless fruit and you crush over the form defenseless nut for its meat come on most of us would have to admit there is a difference Russian after Leo Tolstoy believes that by killing animals mass depresses in himself sympathy and pity towards living creatures and by violating his own feelings becomes cruel great men throughout the ages were vegetarians the mathematicians type baguette the famous playwright George Bernard Shaw Benjamin Franklin Leonardo da Vinci too just a few well that's all that time allowed but I hope I've left you with a little food for thought with the few media ideas that you can really sink your teeth into yes desert well most cakes have eggs but the cakes that my mom makes those are good chocolate cake with strawberries and whipped cream and blueberries I'm getting hungry yes nope I've never eaten meat in my life yes yep I was raised a vegetarian right from when I was born both of my parents were vegetarians well how about I tell you other things about my speech the main reason I actually originally wanted to do it was because people would always have all these questions for me and so I thought heck I might as well answer them all with a speech and so when I gave the speech a lot of the questions were answered and in fact a lot of my friends and other kids in the school they would come up to me and tell me Oh rad I've decided to try vegetarianism for a couple weeks or something and that always made me happy at least I did something and one girl actually just recently came up to me and told me that she was a vegetarian because of my speech thanks rad we're so proud of you so that there is hope for the future it's now time for our special guests we're delighted to have with us tonight dr. Carrie Saunders a nationally known presenter and author whose work is featured in numerous magazines newspapers and Easons and on the radio her popular advice column dear dr. Carrie is featured in the widely read lifestyle magazine VegNews dr. Saunders is also the food and fitness consultant for the mcintyre health center for integrated medicine in Port Huron Michigan where she teaches clinic patients and professionals how to use controllable lifestyle factors to help prevent or reverse food cravings and addictions obesity and chronic disease processes such as arthritis cancer diabetes osteoporosis and cardiovascular disease dr. Saunders clients include government agencies school systems hospitals and corporations she began her career in 1987 as a master's level psychologist she earned her doctoral degree in natural health after postgraduate coursework at the University of Michigan Miami University and Clayton College her current projects include the improvement of school nutritional lunch programs and development of the cat as morphine addiction theory she's a certified prevention consultant and certified addictions counselor her latest physician patient resource book the vegan diet as chronic disease prevention is available here tonight and I'm sure she would be happy to autograph a copy for you after her presentation please welcome dr. Carrie Saunders okay well after rad I can just pack up and go home now thank you so much that was very inspiring to see the youth that was wonderful dr. Harris one of my longtime heroes asked me to kind of stay where the camera is and I said you have no idea what you're asking somebody who just stipulates and walks off the stage so I'll do my very best thank you also to dr. Steph for allowing us my family my daughter my husband to stay with him for a few days while we're here and thank you for the organization too for coordinating this whole thing what I'd like to do is give you an idea of what we'll be talking about in the presentation we'll give a quick overview of the connection between diet and disease processes we'll look specifically at obesity diabetes atherosclerosis and osteoporosis we will summarize with the new four food groups of the Physicians Committee for Responsible medicine and end with tips on how to improve your general overall health status before I begin those big four I want you to realize that proper nutrition can affect many different disease processes not just the four you'll hear about tonight if you think about it food is chemistry even water h2o it's nothing more than hydrogen and oxygen so everything that we eat will alter the chemistry of the body that's the basis I want you all to take home withh as you take on message cancer ear infections the first thing we do with ear infections at our Center is remove all dairy products and I can talk about that in the Q&A if you're interested in more arthritis gout the most common triggers for gwah forgot are actually seafood but there are some other triggers for other individuals that might be more individual for example coffee oatmeal can be a trigger for gout anything at all that would be gastrointestinal Candida we're even seeing some process with multiple sclerosis when we start getting tingling and numbness and some nerve damage the first thing we do at our clinic from a nutritional standpoint is remove aspartame nutrasweet equal esters of what alcohol these artificial sweeteners because we are seeing so much damage related to overuse of those synthetic sweeteners of course the acid reflux as my angina fibrocystic breast in other words with this what we're doing is removing dairy hypoglycemia kind of the reverse of diabetes still the same problem we have an imbalance of insulin and blood sugar which I'll talk about at the end she did a great job with my background I won't reinvent the wheel at our integrated medicine center we do traditional medicine we have an MD on staff who is also a cancer survivor she's trained in eastern and western medicine so she's truly a gift we have a medical hypnotherapist who can help teach people to relax to maybe reduce the amount of pain medication that they need to take or help prepare them for your surgical procedure the acupuncturist is actually our MD we have a massage therapy team and my position there is the food and fitness consultant so I work with people who come to the clinic who want to wean off of medication with our MD as they wean on to better nutrition why do I like preventive medicine because it raises the bar it says if we set the total cholesterol goal at 200 which is what the government essentially has done 200 we get about 50% of our people dying from heart disease or stroke preventive medicine says what goal can we set total cholesterol at so that we're not seeing her to tack some strokes at that rate and that rate for example would be 150 we're looking for a total cholesterol rate of 150 or perhaps 100 plus your age that's our goal at our clinic so preventive medicine raises the bar and says we need to set better standards for individuals here's one of my favorite myths that we are living so much longer as Americans but really if you look at a hundred year timespan we've really only added on six years to the end of life if we take out that subset of humans that have died as infants we are doing much better keeping premature infants alive and so on but when it comes to taking this that group and looking at how much we've added it's about six years and this is despite MRIs PET scans sterilization techniques vaccines antibiotics and so on so we've added a whole bunch of technology to medicine but we still see incredible disease rates we've really only added six years so something is wrong with the picture so the nutritional medicine community is looking at what is the role of food with disease what have we done differently in the last hundred or 200 years we've been gradually increasing the amount of fat sugar animal proteins and junk in the diet we all know that and at the same time we're decreasing the amount of plant foods that we're eating whole grains nuts seeds vegetables fruits beans peas lentils we've decreased that while we've increased these other foods and you're all familiar with these goofy changes we've done when we refine a product that means we're basically stripping out the fiber so when you look at a package of bread for example and it says enriched please think stripped enriched means they've stripped out about 97% of the fiber or so at least 40 to 50 different nutrients they've maybe sprayed on 5 to 7 and they call that enriched so please think of the word enriched translate in your mind and think stripped this is a stripped product no sense wasting money on it hydrogen ization we'll talk about near the end that's the trans fat process taking a plant oil that should be liquid and making it into a solid the artificial colors sweeteners flavors and so on the bleaching process that's done with sugar beets chemical preservatives and so on regardless of the disease process we look at we are eating too many saturated and trans-fats too much animal protein too much cholesterol too many chemical additives and refined process junk my favorite description of that is the crinkly packages anything that's a crinkly package or a box these are refined packaged junk foods certainly not enough phytonutrients the phytonutrients are a very special group of chemicals and compounds that we need that only come from plants phyto means plant so these are not vitamins they're not minerals it's a whole new sub group for example lutein you've heard a lot about that lycopene in tomatoes the exam seen sulfuric Eanes these are nutrients only ever found in plants antioxidants easy way to remember your cancer fighters ace vitamins a c e and the mineral selenium mainly found in plants fiber only ever found in plants are you seeing the pattern we need to increase our plant foods drinking water it's kind of fun for us at the clinic when we say you really need to drink more fluids but we're not talking about pop people say what else is there to drink my goodness essential fatty acids which we'll talk about near the end so let's start with obesity basically one out of every three Americans right now would meet the criteria for clinical obesity we're spending about thirty billion dollars every year on quick fixes my favorite example is QVC or the Home Shopping Network when we're talking about exercise equipment we talked about how wonderful and fun it is but they always spend the most amount of time on how wonderfully it stores why are we thinking about storing it because again it's a quick fix we haven't changed the mindset to say we really need to change our lifestyle we have to come in a new direction the way we look at life many soft signs related to excess body weight down at the bottom there we know of course are diseases related varicose veins diabetes high blood pressure but there are some soft signs related for example just less activity maybe you're not playing with your grandkids as much as you were five years ago or you need to sit down more or you're just tired all the time decreased immunity getting everything that comes our way snoring excess sweat these are all what we would call kind of soft signs of carrying around too much weight they creep up very slowly 95% of our dieters we know go on diet after diet and the unfortunate thing is you usually gain that weight back with a vengence a little few more pounds added on to the beginning base weight we even have people now changing our Anatomy so they'll do the intestinal bypass or the stomach stapling these are very very drastic procedures that we can have reactions to medications to anesthesia we can have infection reactions there are people that have the stomach stapled and then they actually burst the staples you can die from this type of complication with this slide I just want to point out one highlight they actually studied the elementary school children in Bogalusa Louisiana so in other words these are 8 9 10 11 year-old children their total cholesterol averaged 300 okay now the problem is I'm sure it's not different in any other public school in the country because what are we feeding them at the lunch the McDonald's in the the pizzas and the fried chicken nuggets whatever a nugget is french fries if you look at what we're feeding them in the schools and probably what they're eating at home as well it really doesn't surprise us but it's kind of criminal if you think about it a school is where we should be teaching the standards another thing that you need to realize when we're talking about fats in the diet is there are what we call big fat lies and I noticed you had Brenda Davis a couple years back and she probably highlighted this when an advertiser says this is a 2% milk many of us would think that means 2% calories from fat but the problem is they're measuring the volume so they're measuring by weight which includes the water weight but remember water has no calories in it so we could drink a gallon of water and if we were hungry to begin with we're still going to be hungry when we're done with the water our body is looking for caloric energy so if we look at milk from a caloric standpoint it's 35% calories from fat just a little note before we go too far the Physicians Committee for Responsible medicine recommends closer to 15% calories from fat so 2% milk is twice the fat we're looking for in an average food in my book I talk about the different explanations that I see for obesity remember I kind of came at this from a psychological standpoint to the first one up at the top is the brain chemistry might be insensitive to leptin leptin is the chemical in the brain that says I'm satisfied I'm done I can push away from the table I can walk away if your brain is insensitive to leptin you literally never feel full you feel hungry all the time it's almost like a shark very small percentage of the population has left and insensitivity but it is an explanation the second one down is we're storing too much fat the body for example in in post menopause when we have maybe too much estrogen estrogen tells the body to make more fat fat tells the body to make where estrogen so we end up with a cycle that can occur in in post menopause underneath that depressive brain chemistry this can be a genetic situation a genetic depression for example you're just born with maybe not enough serotonin or whatever or it can be a situational depression my husband died my child went off to college there might be a situation that is truly depressing and what the body normally does is look for stimulant foods that really will for a short period of time stimulate your brain chemistry caffeine chocolate sugar mountain do you can see the pattern here we're looking for stimulant foods and they literally work at a brain chemistry level but it's a short-term with a crash at the end which starts this cycle up at the top eating too many calories for activity level for example we sleep in a comfortable bed we sit in a car we stand on the elevator we sit at the drive-through we are literally not moving enough the next one down is actually my favorite because I deal with this one in the office of the most poor family dietary habits if I had a dollar for every time someone came in and said high cholesterol runs in my genetics everybody has it I'd probably be very wealthy what we're really looking at because you'll see later high cholesterol is not really genetic for most people is poor family dietary habits grandma smothered everything in butter mother smothered everything in butter so the daughter smothers everything in butter so you can see we passed these family dietary habits down the very last one when we're eating too much fat and cholesterol and not enough unrefined carbs so vegetables beans peas lentils fruits and so on we literally deplete the serotonin in the brain I noticed you also had Doug Lyall who's another psychologist kind of cross-trained and diet he talked a lot about dopamine in the pleasure-seeking cycle serotonin is another brain chemical that you need to know about though because if your serotonin is low you'll feel kind of depressed which swings you over to looking for stimulant foods and here can be a lot of extra calories is anyone here a fan of the high protein diets okay great I'm just going to highlight a couple little things Barry Sears and Atkins Sears is from the zone diet of course the Atkins diet are doubling and tripling the amount of protein that a human should probably be eating and I'll give you some examples of that the World Health Organization which is a group that looks at and what would be optimal for humans recommends closer to 10 to 15% calories from protein human breast milk in other words this is the perfect designed food perfectly designed food for a human to double in triplet size during infancy is really only about 8% calories from protein the American College of preventive medicine and the Physicians Committee for Responsible medicine about 10 to 15 maybe 20 percent at the very most if you're an athlete but looking at Sears and Atkins they're doubling and tripling so what would be wrong with too much protein first of all osteoporosis which we'll cover a little bit later but kidney and liver disease constipation from not enough fiber terribly smelling breath and sweat malnutrition and here's the kicker metabolic reset when your body is not getting enough plant foods the sense is that there must be a famine or a drought in the environment the plants are not growing so the body starts to reset its metabolism to store more fat so at our clinic if dr. McIntyre walks by me and says I'm sending you Joe he's post Atkins that's kind of a diagnosis where I work that tells me that I need to now feed this person foods that are gentle on the kidneys and liver so we're going to switch out of animal proteins and look for beans peas and lentils for an example it also means that they need to lose weight because they've got excess body fat I've got to feed them foods that will help remineralize their bones so we look at post Atkins as kind of a diagnosis where I work one last slide about the high protein gang core chic or how many of us know people with core shakur in the United States it's virtually unknown because it's a disease of eating not enough protein but how many people do we know as Americans that have osteoporosis arthritis and kidney disease we all know somebody with one of those and if you think about where the excess meat protein is packaged it also has the saturated fat and cholesterol so now we also have to ask ourselves who else do we know that has heart disease cancer stroke diabetes or obesity now we're talking about the American population so we didn't even start with low protein we started with high protein and maybe even made it worse let's look at the different food groups these are the Physicians Committee for Responsible medicine at the top they're looking for 10 to 15% of your calories from fat and protein and the bulk of your diet from carbs this is not the refined carbs the donuts cakes cookies and pop these carbs are beans peas lentils vegetables and fruits so let's look at the different food groups and how they stack up fruits vegetables whole grains and legumes would make a perfectly well-rounded diet with maybe a handful or two of nuts and seeds a day we would end up with numbers that look beautifully however if we look at some of the other food groups and compare them to the Physicians Committee we realize these should either be side dishes or maybe broth if they are included at all and there are many people in the room that never include these foods in your diet so you can certainly get plugged in and get some ideas if you'd like to go vegan cow flesh would basically be like filet mignon and hamburger and steak Burdon pig would be chicken turkey ham pork fish cheese eggs and milk and you might say well but Carrie milk has some of those carbs but you know what it's not with fiber and lactose is that simple sugar it's not the kind of carb we're looking for that we would find in beans peas lentils or vegetables it's a sugar carb okay dr. Dean Ornish when he was talking about high protein diets and the Ekans diet specifically he said you can lose weight in lots of ways that are not healthy taking chemotherapy getting aids can being an alcoholic you will lose weight but even if you lose that way you're mortgaging your health in the process and if you're not familiar with the Norrish I'll just fill you in very quickly he was really a pioneering mainstream physician he went into the arteries with the scope took pictures of the gunk on the inside of the arteries which we'll talk about later he then took the scope out changed their diet put the scope back in and proved that these arteries are now cleaned by changing the diet so Dean Ornish is really a pioneering physician using mainstream technology to prove the power of food as chemistry the truth about those unrefined carbs they make us feel satisfied their fiber intact they're low in calories and fat there are a few high fat plant foods that you need to know about if you know someone who's pregnant nursing an athlete a child perhaps somebody who has been suffering from gluten intolerance and they really do need to gain weight here are some wonderful sources of high fat plant foods nuts seeds avocados and coconuts olives are 96% calories from fat and tofu the reason that's here is yes it's a processed food and I want you to realize that not everybody has to be eating tofu to be vegetarian and it's certainly not a weight loss food it's okay to add in but realize it's not a weight loss food the processed oils you're going to want to stay away from processed you'll see later on when we talk about trans fats they're not healthy let's switch gears a little bit and talk about diabetes 7 million in the United States the number is growing all the time 10% are on insulin the only good news about that is that 90% are not yet on insulin so those 90% are the ones we want to target very aggressively even the 10% that are on insulin if they're working with a competent nutritional medicine physician they can actually sometimes reduce the dose that's required by changing the food chemistry which if you're thinking about a child with type 1 diabetes you really want to give them some room to grow with that prescription if they need it you don't want to start amount on high doses just to try to compensate for a poor diet we want to give them some room to breathe here's an interesting side note with our type 2 diabetics 90% are also clinically obese so we we know that fats a part of that complications blindness kidney failure stroke atherosclerosis heart attacks limb amputation still occurs even with our diabetics and glucophage and some of these other type 2 meds you can also get too much and then all of a sudden now we're in the hypoglycemia and insulin shock when I'm speaking with physicians they always want to climb all over me about using a 1927 study but there's a reason that I'm using this study for you I'm trying to show you that what I'm about to say is not new information at all it's just information that we don't hear a lot about dr. Sweeney took young healthy medical students this is how they made money back in the day they would sign up for a study and do whatever it took and they would make some spending money what he did was alter the diet two days on a very high fat diet two days on a very high sugar simple carb type diet and what he was measuring was blood glucose on the two days of a high-fat diet every single medical student spiked into the diabetic range so there's some kind of link there two days on a high sugar simple carb diet they had some fluctuation but not one student spiked into the diabetic range so back in 1927 dr. Sweeney concluded maybe we should be looking at the fats and oils interfering with insulin instead of the sugars yes sugar can be a problem in excess but when we're looking at the basic foundation of changing a diabetics diet and let's look at fats and oils first let me give you an example if you remember the Val D Exxon Valdez oil spill watching those birds trying to swim along the top of the water in an oil slick they couldn't get where they wanted to go because they were trying to work in an oil slick same kind of thing with the insulin in your bloodstream it's trying so hard to get where it wants to go but it's trying to work around all these fat and oil molecules another way to look at it at least 85% of our diabetics have twice the normal insulin levels so what does that mean it means the brain realizes the insulin is not getting into the cell to unlock it there's a problem so it starts pumping out even more insulin so the bottom line is it's not the pancreas that's malfunctioning it's the insulin itself that can't get in and do what it needs to do so the brain says make more insulin long-term though we're going to end up with pancreatic damage because you can't keep over stressing your organs like that and insulin and pills can control the blood sugar levels on your labs but really long-term we're still seeing complications so it's better to change the diet first and optimize your nutrition just some food for thought I'm borrowing a statement from red here a hundred percent of the children with diabetes mellitus are also testing in the study positive for the cow milk antibody in other words they are also allergic to cow's milk the theory here is is that the antigen and antibody reaction is also attacking the child's pancreas doing pancreatic damage so perhaps we need to eliminate the dairy products right off the bat it's so very rare to get a hundred percent of anything in a scientific study this one we all need to pay attention to and start looking more at it circulatory diseases before we go ahead you need to realize that cholesterol is more like a wax fat is more like a grease or an oil so if you have a steak and you're trimming off the fat you're eliminating some of the fat but that cholesterol is still in the muscle of the meat so we're not touching the cholesterol at all by trimming the fat at our clinic we look at a thorough Genesis words wherever you have a blockage it's the circulatory system that needs to be fixed patient room one might have a blockage in the brain room two might be a blockage in the heart room three might want viagra the point with us is we've got a circulatory disease process and we need to look at that whole system to fix it high blood pressure is related to when you get your total cholesterol from your physician you'll have a number let's let's say it's 150 we know we know that we're doing great underneath that total cholesterol it's broken down into fractions this could be intermediate low-density IL DL HDL LDL all these different fractions the two day here the most about is HDL high-density lipoproteins and LDL low-density lipoproteins easiest way to remember this is you want high high and low low high HDL low LDL generally speaking so if we reverse that and we've got your LDL creeping up high we know we've got a problem what are the most common culprits improper diet poor stress management many of us don't realize how stress can affect our cholesterol levels if you think about the fight-or-flight response when we get under stress and we need to do something now either run away your stand and fight even back in you know when when we were first designed or however you want to look at it in that fight-or-flight response the body normally releases extra clotting factor so if you're running past thorn bushes and you get a cut you won't bleed to death or if you do get injured in a fight you won't bleed to death but look at our stresses today we're in rush hour traffic releasing extra clotting factor for what we're thinking about the boss at work or problems at home or whatever releasing extra clotting factor we're doing ourselves harm so I really need to look at how we manage our stress that is a very real thing it's not a cliche smoking not exercising and genetics remember when I said my favorite thing about cholesterol was when they say it's genetically high cholesterol that's 5% of our population the other 95% of the people that are on medication for high cholesterol it's diet we need to start looking at controllable lifestyle factors within our reach if you've never learned about angioplasty essentially what we're doing is sticking a tube into the artery that is clogged I referred to this as gunk earlier the gunk is cellular debris metabolic waste as the body is going through its processes cholesterol saturated fat trans fats collect calcium deposits and so on so we stick this tube into this gunk we blow up the balloon pushing the gunk on the outside of the artery walls so we have a better diameter to go through for the blood to go through the problem though is patients can die on the table if we push that gunk in the artery bursts 30% of our patients are going to have a reclosure of that very same blood vessel and most people will end up with the closure in a vessel somewhere else in the body so medicine needs to take the second step they need to say step one we've saved your life with angioplasty step two you need to know how to get the gunk out of your arteries before it happens again immediately so we really need to go that extra mile to do ethical medicine where is the cholesterol this is my favorite error of Michigan physicians I don't know how it is here but they'll tell their post stroke and post heart attack patients to go from red meat to white meat okay let's look at where the cholesterol is in the diet number two there is not single white male this is skinless white meat okay cow is going to be your beef your burger your steaks and so on chicken it doesn't matter what cut what we're looking at in portion size to compare this table is like a deck of card size that three and a half ounce to four ounces of meat if you look at that list red meat and white meat are essentially exactly the same amount of cholesterol you do save a little bit of saturated fat by going from red to white meat but the bottom line is it's not going to help we really need to drastically change and aggressively change our diet look all the way down though if you look at shrimp super high in dietary cholesterol there are so many what we call fish vegetarians or pesco vegetarians Pesce vegetarians we need to realize we're still getting quite a cholesterol load with the seafood in the sea life you're also getting the PCBs in heavy metals and lead and whatever else is soaking into the fat of that fish if you look down also dairy products chicken eggs I actually went to the American Egg Board to make sure that that was not a typo 215 milligrams in one egg every single plant product including nuts and seeds zero milligrams of cholesterol here's the kicker there is no required daily allowance – recommended daily allowance RDA of cholesterol the only reason that that will be on your nutrition labels is because physicians say you've had a heart attack you've had a stroke please watch your cholesterol levels but it's not there because we have to get it in a food your liver makes 600 to 800 milligrams of its own cholesterol every day if we look at cholesterol a little differently by people who choose to change the food chemistry we see a really neat picture vegans are people who are only eating plant foods whole grains vegetables fruits nuts seeds beans peas and lentils lacto-ovo vegetarians are eating plant foods plus milk and dairy products which is lacto-ovo would be the egg products chicken eggs caviar and so on the fish eaters the pesco or Pesce vegetarians and then the non vegetarians are the meat eaters or the standard American diet so what Jack Norris famous registered dietitian did he took 17 different studies averaged out total cholesterol by dietary choice the vegans were averaging a total cholesterol of 160 150 what are the vegans doing that they can do better trans fats our packaged foods are fried foods coke and fries are vegan doesn't mean it's healthy so trans fats are where vegans can do better lacto-ovo vegetarians remember they're getting the cholesterol from the eggs and from the dairy 185 is their total cholesterol on average 196 4 fish eaters and non vegetarians are averaging 201 so remember the goal here is 150 or less or 100 plus your age before I leave cholesterol you also need to know there's a related medical issue called c-reactive protein which you will work with your physician on that's a lab test and they will work you through that but you also need to know as an informed consumer where is the cholesterol in your diet just a little political statement I have to make the American Heart Association to this day continues to serve chicken beef eggs butter at its fundraisers and it's meetings you kind of have to look at it as job security okay let's look quickly at changing the diet within a group of people so we've eliminated the fact that maybe this group has better genetics than that group we've eliminated that we've taken the same group of people and manipulated the cholesterol that they eat we start them on the general diet as a baseline they're using a standard American diet average total cholesterol to 20 to 35 then we feed them for weeks on a zero cholesterol vegan and their cholesterol drops down to 155 160 same group of people we put them back on to the American diet high cholesterol their cholesterol spikes up to 53 to 60 to 70 same exact group of people at this point I'm thinking what are they thanking we change their diet again down six weeks to a zero cholesterol diet their total cholesterol drops down again 160 so what I want you to realize is all we're doing is changing the diet in this four to six week period and we're impacting body chemistry that dramatically it's astounding osteoporosis many people would say that osteoporosis is defined as a lack of calcium in the diet but what we're looking at medically speaking with us your process is a loss of your own calcium from your own bones into your urine so you're literally urinating out the density of your bones that is the medical definition of osteoporosis the National Osteoporosis foundation makes the following recommendations to prevent bone loss not smoking making sure you are physically active watching your alcohol caffeine and sodium intakes making sure that you're not eating too much animal protein and making sure that you are getting enough calcium but what's the one category we never hear about in the media too much animal protein intake we never hear about that as an osteoporosis risk factor my suspicion is that so much of the American economy depends on high animal protein intake that they don't want to talk about that in the media but the bottom line is if we're going to be informed consumers we need to look at the truth and then base our decisions on that and maybe change the economy if we need to do that what is calcium and where do we get it it's stored in your teeth and your bones we use it for heart regulation it has to do with blood clotting nerve transmission so if kari's saying geez I don't eat dairy or meat where do I my calcium green leafy vegetables is your number one source in fact dr. joel Fuhrman another specialist in nutritional medicine says the base of that pyramid should be greens greens should be at the bottom and this is where cows get their calcium from eating greens broccoli kale collard greens your whole grains beans peas and lentils even some of the fortified orange juices they're fortified with calcium there are calcium set tofu's that you can buy any of the plant milk soy almond veggie and rice milk just check the label many of them are also calcium insured seaweed but the bottom line when they say building better bones think beans and greens these are your bone builders make sure you're exercising that tells the body to remineralize one way to look at it is if you looked at the top six cow milk consuming countries on the planet Denmark Norway Sweden the United States the United Kingdom and New Zealand it identically matches the top six countries that have osteoporosis something's wrong with this picture another way to look at it the Alaskan Inuit Eskimo is the population on the planet with the highest osteoporosis rates but look at how much calcium they're really eating they're eating two three four times the amount of calcium as most Americans but they're eating it in the presence of a high animal protein diet whale blubber seal fish so they're eating a ton of protein which is kind of cancelling out and losing the calcium density in the bones and paleo pathologists this is where I start in my book five hundred years ago or more will report the same findings for this population when they dig out the bones from the ice their diet has remained the same their disease rates have remained the same another way to look at that we take different studies that alternate the amount of calcium with a low protein diet or a high protein diet what you're looking at in the second column a plus sign means the person is remineralizing their bones their bones are becoming more dense so a plus is a good thing if you're looking at the other column the high protein diet regardless of how much calcium they're eating if it's a high protein diet they end up in a minus a negative number means the calcium is coming out in the urine taken from bone density lost in the urine so regardless of how much calcium you're eating if it's in the presence of a high protein diet you're not getting the biggest bang for your buck what is cow's milk really I know that you know we see wonderful ads and famous people with the cow milk mustache and all that you know my thinking is you know why don't you wean that would be a good thing for an adult to but really when we look at it from a scientific standpoint its water and butter fat casein and whey are the proteins that if you're allergic to milk you're reacting to the casein in the way if you're lactose intolerant you're not able to digest the sugar lactose and we'll talk about that in a second the United States has one of the highest pus counts allowed in a glass of milk where do they get the pus well unfortunately we feed them at least 10 times we feed them so many hormones so that they will make at least 10 times the amount of milk they need to make to deliver for humans to drink so any women in the audience who have breastfed can you imagine if your body was asked to make ten times the amount of milk you were designed to produce in nature it's very painful for the cows they end up with a lot of infections the infection of course brings the pus and the white blood cells that gets into the milk we also have iodine contamination in most American mouths because they literally paint the utters with iodine to try to control the infection so there are many things when you just look at a glass of milk scientifically that you probably don't need in a human body veterinary antibiotics to fight the infection veterinary grade besides and hormones these are all different things that are concentrated in the fat of the animal delivered into the milk that humans dream lactose intolerance the reason why I put this in quotation marks is because it's a normal state for a human being it should not be a medical diagnosis at about age 3 or 4 humans are designed to wean from the mother when you look worldwide every culture will wean some time by age 3 or 4 and naturally speaking most humans stop making lactase the enzyme we need to digest lactose so it's a perfect system as long as you're weaned by age 3 or 4 when you look at different subgroups you know Asians Native Americans Eskimos Hispanics you can see that fifty to a hundred percent of these groups are lactose intolerant but that's normal Caucasians however seem to be what we call lactase persistent they're continuing to make lactase and one of the theories on that is that if you look at Northern European history we really did associate the high life or the rich life with what the royalty eight butters and creams and cream sauces and it was it was only the wealthy families that were allowed to have milk from cows to use at the dinner table so when when we emigrated over here our ancestors really wanted to give us the very best possible life that's why they came was to give us a better life but at the same time it that they imported the cow milk they imported the same disease rates that we see with the royalty in history so overweight they had to be carried goat arthritis moodiness personality disorders they really had a lot of things that came along with what was meant to be a gift so I understand the spirit but the bottom line scientifically was we really did import disease rates worldwide 65 percent of adults do not consume cow's milk one more political thing if you look at cultures that are animal based in nutrition they go into puberty at about age 12.5 unfortunately very recently now we're seeing African Americans in the South going into puberty at age 8 and age 9 that means they have breasts periods and can now reproduce the problem for me is this is going to make teenage pregnancy skyrocket because at that age they don't understand that a child is forever you don't put them on a shelf like a doll when you're done playing that's 24/7 when you look at plant-based diet airy cultures we see that women go into puberty at about age 15 in the China Health Study T Colin Campbell said that it was closer to age 17 now a 15 and a 17 year old has a little bit better grasp of what long term means not like a 30 year old having a baby but certainly much better than an 8 or 10 year old having a baby from a clinical standpoint the earlier you go into puberty the higher chance you have of getting breast cancer or having menstrual difficulties later in life so there's another ethical issue to consider where would we get our calcium any of the dark greens I talked about here we're comparing a hundred calories of food in each group you can see the dark greens are much better than cow's milk really for humans the absorption rate is another factor the greens are actually absorbed better into the bones than cow's milk for humans the bottom line here is because we have the companion nutrients intact in the greens Kelsey the calcium comes with magnesium manganese boron silicon phosphorus zinc so we have the companion nutrients that your body needs to take that calcium and stick it into your bones a couple quick comparison slides if we're looking at a hundred grams of food if broccoli won the category and nutrient has scored green if cow's milk wanted is scored red you can see the only two categories where cow's milk even touched it we're vitamin D which is synthetically added and calcium but if you do the math with what is exactly absorbed we're really only comparing 25 milligrams to 38 milligrams not a huge difference when you realize the fiber phytochemicals and so on are over here in the broccoli comparing it to steak broccoli wins in every category so it's the true macho food don't let anyone say it's really steak it's not zinc is essentially a tie but I gave it to steak because even though it's statistically insignificant I felt bad at the steak so preventive medicine really does raise the bar it says we need to get better at educating the public with true science at our clinic I'll just touch on this we also use topical progesterone for questi or osis when indicated it stimulates bone growth it helps balance against excess estrogen it can also help prevent prostate cancer in men okay general preventative medicine goals you're looking again total cholesterol at 150 or approximately 100 plus your age blood pressure at 110 over 70 you've heard 120 over 80 but we really are looking for 110 over 70 making sure you're drinking enough water to urinate four to six times a day and having a bowel movement about two to three times a day fiber does two main things it's kind of like a time release of sugars and nutrients into the body sort of like a sponge the second main purpose for the fiber it provides the bulk for the intestinal muscle to grab and pull the waist along it's basically about 30 feet long your intestines and you need that muscle to have something to grab on to to move the waist along so that's the purpose of fiber again summarizing generally speaking we're eating way too much cholesterol saturated fat and trans fats and so on and certainly not enough plants the Physicians Committee for Responsible medicine makes these recommendations I like it because it's a it's it's a diet designed for abundance is three or more vegetables a day you could eat 10 servings of vegetables a day at our clinic we teach handfuls about a handful of vegetables would be about a serving why because over the course of the day if you're eating a good amount of vegetables and fruits and grains and legumes you're going to get a nice variety this is my contact information if you have any questions at all please don't hesitate to call me contact me if you're doing a paper for school or your children are I'd be more than happy to help in any way I can thank you so much for your attention thank you so much dr. 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  1. We need more women like her !

  2. Thank you, well done. If we do not know this we cannot change our ways, or our diets.

  3. what a f'ing BS statement?analysis ?about black girls. Really how did she come up with that crap? Because they are black (wanton sluts, oversexed and all as the stereotypes go) If they get premature puberty start menstruating at 10 and grow breast at 9 their libidios are going to explode and they are going to start screwing everything in sight because they want a baby doll baby?

    What the FUCK? Perhaps the white woman who gave the lecture f'ed everything that moved when she grew breast and started menstruating. Did she want a baby?
    Let's look at a few things like normal child development- 9 year olds do not understand sex. At 9 they should still be in the "let's play doctor , I'll show you mine you show me yours" stage.Someone may have explained where babies came from to them but they do not understand sexually, and sexual intercourse.
    If a child at that age is acting out sexually something is amiss.
    (9year old girls are not becoming pregnant because they want to under their own volition. As the former Surgeon General stated – studies have shown high percentage of teen pregnancies in the US come from older teenage MEN and MEN MEN over the age of 18 molesting and raping the girls. They see breast and project onto the girls precocious sexually.
    9 year old boys are not FERTILE , especially if they are eating hormone full meat that is making the girls in their communities grow breasts. No talk of what being exposed to more female hormones does to boys.
    No talk of the diseases and conditions that affect women later in life who start puberty at an an earlier age and the later danger to their health. No talk about how destructive pregnancy can be to a CHILD who is nowhere near the physically maturity to carry a baby and the havoc it wreaks on their bodies. No mention of the higher rate of maternal death.

    no talk of the emotional and psychological scars of being manipulated or coerced into having sex with an older man and the physical damage of being raped even if the child does not become pregnant. AND SHE CAME INTO THIS… GOT INVOLVED IN PLANT BASED NUTRITION FROM A COUNSELING?PSYCHOLOGY BACKGROUND?

    no mention of the decreasing rate of teen pregnancy in the African American population and increasing higher rate of teen pregnancies in the european/white community. WHITE GIRLS GET MORE ABORTIONS!!!

    She gave no evidence of an increased in the rate of pregnancies in black pre-teens and she did not raise any concern about the BREASTS, pubescent secondary sex characteristics and MENSTRUATION of white girls exposed to the same toxic hormonal laced meat.

    WHITE people just can't get over being white, its acceptable to malign black CHILDREN and delve in stereotypes. Instead of raising health concerns of early puberty she fixated on obscene fantasies of 9 year old seductress and welfare mothers. Fear of a black planet.

    Shame on her, how unscientific and unprofessional of her. White people and their ignorance, just can't get out of their own way.
    This BULLSHIT was a low point in her talk that undermined the rest of what she had to say.

  4. Aplause!!! Aplause!! Rad way to go!

  5. Fantastic speech, Rad!! You're an inspiration. Way to make the world different!

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