Canadian Doctor SAVAGES Senator On Healthcare



dr. Danielle Martin is an expert on health care policy from Toronto and she recently testified in front of the Senate about the issue of health care and a Republican senator from North Carolina Richard burr tried to take her on and it didn't work out so well Canadian doctors exiting the public system for the private sector has had the effect of increasing increasing waiting lists for patients seeking public health care why are doctors exiting the public system in Canada thank you for your question senator I if if I didn't express myself in a way that make myself understood I apologize there are no doctors exiting the public system in Canada and in fact we see a net influx of physicians from the United States into the Canadian system over the last number of years what I did say was that the solution to the wait time challenge that we have in Canada which we do have a difficult time with waits for elective medical procedures does not lie in moving away from our single-payer system towards a multi payor system and that's borne out by the experience of Australia so Australia used to have a single tier system and in the 1990s moved to a multiple payer system where private insurance was permitted and a very well known study by Duckett @al was tracked what took place in terms of wait times in Australia as the multi payer system was put in place and what they found was in those areas of Australia where private insurance was being taken up and utilised weights in the public system became longer what do you say to a an elected official who goes to Florida and not the Canadian system to have a heart valve replace it's actually interesting because in fact the the people who are the pioneers of that particular surgery which premier Williams had and had the best health outcomes in the world for that surgery are in Toronto at the at the Peter Munk Cardiac Center just down the street from where I work so what I say is that sometimes sometimes people have a perception and I believe that thank actually this is fueled in part by media discourse that going to where something where you pay more for some thing that that necessarily makes it better but it's not actually borne out by the evidence on outcomes and people prefer their system because they know consciously they pay more no I think it's because they judge quality and they judge innovation many Canadian patients on a waiting list die each year do you know I don't sir but I know that there are 45,000 in America who die waiting because they don't have insurance at all oh she him up oh that hurts man I feel the sting but that's what you get that's what you get when you take a Republican senator from North Carolina who's up to his eyeballs just leaking all over the place with American exceptionalism this irrational feeling that somehow we are actually better than every single other country on the planet in every way shape and form but that's not true and we look that's not to say that I'm like America is inferior to everybody in every respect of course not the reality is nuance just like in everything else in life you know in some areas we do really great in other areas we do really terrible in other areas where you know moderate hanging out there in the middle someplace and the issue of health care is a one of the particular issues where we really do terrible like any any any expert who takes an objective look at the facts goes oh my goodness the American health care system is disgusting we basically ranked the worst among all of the modern industrial nations I mean you name it and they're ahead of us Norway Denmark Iceland Sweden Greenland Finland Britain France Australia Canada they're just all just slapping us all over the place you know and this and he thinks he's getting there that's my favorite part he thinks he's setting this like perfect bear trap that she's gonna walk in and go oh whoa I guess you got me on that one Oh mr. North Carolina senator you're so smart tell me about NASCAR and how great America is he's like yeah how many people die from having to wait in Canada where we don't know because that number doesn't exist but I know 45,000 died in America she's pummeling his head into the pavement they're like Oh how's that for a fact you bitch you want to talk about dying people let's talk about dying people 45,000 in America your rebuttal can't hear you what was that well you're bleeding from your eyeballs like I didn't I can't hear you is there you all right oh I broke your larynx did I break your larynx I apologize for slamming your head in the pavement with facts

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  1. Up here in Canada we pay a lot for our healthcare, but because we pay for it in taxes (a bit at a time) so it is there when we need it. So if we need a lot of care to treat a major illness or catastrophic injuries due to a car accident etc…, we are almost totally covered, if not fully covered. Very few Canadians need to worry about losing their homes or their retirement funds to pay for health care. I remember my mother spending approx. three months in hospital and I think the total bill came to under $100.

  2. Doctors in British Columbia are not doing proper examinations of patients and differential diagnosing. The doctors and specialists are misrepresenting patients real issue(s) and they are making diagnoses based on their radar. When a healthcare system abuses you, doesn’t listen to you and dismisses you, purposefully misdiagnoses you, gives you the wrong treatments and leaves one in chronic life threatening pain, something IS seriously wrong. I went above and beyond to help the doctors make a proper diagnosis….I flew to Toronto and to Minnesota with answers and the doctors back in British Columbia didn’t believe the US doctor AND my pain specialist abandoned me??!!….this is terrible.
    I had to hire a registered nurse consultant to get the life sparing decompression surgery I so desperately needed.
    Lack of proper medical care in British Columbia has permanently disabled me. Don’t be ignorant…..the Canadian system is broken and the it has been for many many years.

  3. Way to be an arrogant, condescending prick there senator brrrrrrrrrrr.

  4. That's not a savage. She did not answer the last question by diverting. Tens of thousands of people die in Canada on a waiting list. In the UK a cancer patient waited far longer than a year for treatment.

  5. Oh, Senator Burr got DEEE-STROYED by research, facts, and logic!

  6. Canadian Healthcare is losing ground. The debt is out of control and the sad end will be no healthcare at all. Watch in the next two years.

  7. america is falling behind the civilised world more and more… your systems are outdated and they suck, you are becoming dumber and dumber every year… you live like fucking animals…

  8. If Canada is so great why aren't illegal aliens flocking to the Canadian border??? Why do these people want so badly to get into the U.S. We should be telling these folks to head to Canada, where everything is free. Canada, where you have to mount your electric meter 8 feet off the ground so in the winter someone can come by on a snowmobile and read the meter!!!

  9. It seems the Australian system is great. That Canadian Doctor is a genius.

  10. The Republicans could lose the elections just for health insurance problems.

  11. So a friend of mine lives in the US of A and her husband had to go to hospital due to a severe migraine accompanied by vomiting/nausea. He was admitted for observation and was given two IV bags of glucose (to give him nutrients lost by vomiting), Percocet and ice. Their bill for just 24 hours in hospital? $3,600.00 for twenty-four hours. She say's it will take them about three years to pay it off along with paying their mortgage, utilities, groceries, multiple car insurance, gas for vehicles etc. I went to hospital in Toronto for the same reason and stayed for about 20 hours. I got an IV and pain meds. Guess what I paid?

  12. I was hoping she would say "Burr, you disgust me"'

  13. Fun fact: Before Obamacare was implemented, there was more American without insurance than there is people living in Canada.

  14. Right wingers: "Obamacare is a disaster" "Obamacare sucks!"

    Also right wingers: "America has the best healtcare system already! We dont need single payer! Why do so many canadians come here for healthcare?"

    Lmao idiots

  15. I want to have system like Canada has or similar system to any other developed countries have

  16. I am so proud to be African-Canadian .

  17. What a smarmy sob.

  18. Damn you young in this video lol

  19. 45 000 died in america because they have no healthcare or no money to see the doctor

    In canada the people wait for some minimalist healthcare
    But a op or something life or death operation is more faster

  20. im i the only person thinks this guy is handsome?

  21. Regarding the "wait" times. I had a heart attack, went by ambulance to the hospital and was treated immediately. I even got flown to a better equipped hospital for a stent.

  22. MEDICAL SERVICES IN BRITISH COLUMBIA GOT TRANSFORMED INTO MAFIA EXECUTIONER FOR GOVERNMENT/CROWN OWNED INSURANCE CORPORATION OF BRITISH COLUMBIA OR WCB IN ORDER TO DENY RIGHTEOUS COMPENSATION FOR IMMIGRANTS CANADIAN CITIZENS LIVING IN BRITISH COLUMBIA OR OTHER PROVINCES DEPENDING ON CROWN OWNED INSURANCE CORPORATION OR MEDICAL SERVICES……SO….SINGLE GOVERNMENT MEDICAL CARE IS ONLY GOOD FOR THE RICH OR BRITISH DESCENT CANADIAN CITIZENS….!!!!…….IMMIGRANTS CANADIAN CITIZENS CAN ….”….. GO BACK THE COUNTRY THEY COME FROM…”… to get medical care THERE ..(..no matter they got injured here in Canada…)… because basically IMMIGRANTS CANADIAN CITIZENS ONLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO WORK TO EXHAUSTION AND GET THE FUCK OUT …DEPLETED AND WAISTED ……!!!!!
    Central medical care is good….EVEN IF EVERYONE HAS TO PAY MORE FOR IT… but only IF IT IS LEGALY CORRECT AND FAIR NO MATTER IS AN INSURANCE ISSUE OR DOMESTIC….. !!!!!!!
    CANADIAN DOCTORS ARE VERY GOOD BUT THEY ARE FORCED INTO A INSURANCE FINANCED FRAUD IN FAVOUR OF INSURANCE CORPORATIONS BY THE GOVERNMENT POLITICAL MAFIA …!!!!
    GOD BLESS CANADA AND WHATEVER GOOD IS LEFT OF IT 💝💝💝💝💝🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😇😇😇😇😇

  23. My health insurance went up 30 % for 2019. Why can't our polititians look at other coutries and see what works?

  24. Don't know how the hell I stumbled across this page, but ummm… SUBSCRIBED!!! 😁😁😁

  25. The irony is my right cornea came from North Carolina… It was about two weeks from being told I needed a graft to being in surgery and that was because it was the earliest free slot. The cornea itself was ready and waiting.

    To be fair to that politician, it didn't fix the problem and they don't seem to want to put a new one in.

  26. You should have mentioned Germany in this debate as well. Because everyone in Germany has Health Insurance except the German system is different it does not mean it is bad for the German people. The Germans have different Health Insurance plans but everyone in Germany is insured – refugees, unemployed, etc. and the doctors can not change their patients because of their health insurance plan. This is forbidden in Germany. Their Health Insurance plan includes pharma care, vision care, dental care and please, tell me what other country has this kind of comprehensive health care for their people.

  27. "How many people die in wait lines". None. Because the needy go first.

    Pay little taxes and have a fucked healthcare system, or pay more taxes but save money because of lower Premiums and not have a fucked healthcare system. You choose.

  28. You should read studies done. Our 45,000 deaths compared to 600-1000/100,000 deaths for Canada. If we had their rate, with our population.. it would be around 2 million a year.. She knows, she doesn't want to say because it shuts her up.

  29. Lapping us in what???

  30. You're such an idiot. Know several people who have left Canada, and work in a hospital.. a lot of doctors are leaving Canada. 45,000 died, that's really…she knows our countries deaths, but doesn't know hers.. but she's an expert.. hmmmm

  31. Loved the commentator 🤣🤣🤣

  32. Yeah. We do have to wait for shit like hip replacements and cataracts, but you got cancer you are getting your meds and chemo within a week.

  33. I am Canadian. When I was 22 I was diagnosed with gallstones in August. Because they weren't causing me major issues I elected to have surgery in December while I was on break from college (I could have had surgery sooner if I wanted). In November when I developed pancreatitis secondary to my gallstones my surgery was performed within the week. Between August and November I probably was at the ER 2-3 times a month. I did not pay a cent out of pocket for any of these services. If I were American this would have cost about $50,000.

  34. Mỹ Dad hospitalized for continuously 35 days at many hospitals in Hamilton Ontario Canada he then gave up at 98.
    A year later, my Mom follow the path she spent all together 21 days through out 6 hospitals also in Hamilton Ontario.
    She passed away at 96.
    During the complicated treatment, nurses came, social workers visit help carry out therapy, exercise, ect..
    We don't have to pay a dime.

  35. Unfourtunatley we in Australia have a liberal government in power that wishes to follow the American system so only the rich can get health care. Hopefully they will be out of power at the next election next year. For our government to follow Trump is a bad choice to start with.

  36. As a Canadian who has accessed health care services in the U.S., Canada, and Europe, I would summarize Canada’s health-care system as “universal access to mediocrity”. Wait-time targets established by Canada’s Wait Time Alliance are not being met. Small wonder that those Canadians with the resources opt to pay out-of-pocket by seeking tests or treatment in the U.S. Meanwhile, our emergency rooms are approaching third-world status, overcrowded and under-resourced, where the wait for triage can take untold hours, and the sight of patients on beds parked in corridors for want of an emergency room cubicle or hospital bed is increasingly the norm, not the exception.

    And then there is the subject of medical technology, where many of our hospitals and clinics possess either outdated equipment, or are lacking crucial equipment altogether. I speak from experience. Five years ago, I traveled to the Massachusetts Eye and Ear Infirmary because not a single hospital in all of Ontario possessed a confocal microscope to image my degenerated corneal nerves. After a fight, OHIP finally conceded this reality, and paid my Mass Eye and Ear treatment bill. And then there is the subject of family doctors. When I moved several years ago, I went without one for almost two years. And hundreds of thousands of Canadians have waited longer than me, and are still waiting.

    It’s easy to snub U.S. health care. After all, we Canadians love to feel superior to Americans. We revel in our smug conceit. Granted, there is much that is highly problematic in U.S. health-care delivery, access to affordable insurance being the most egregious. That said, we Canadians are woefully ignorant of health-care delivery models in the rest of the developed world – beyond the U.S., which most Canadians know as the only other model of delivery. Elsewhere, two-tiered delivery is the norm, while health-care analysts in two-tier jurisdictions generally view Canada’s single-payer health care system as a curious experiment, but not an experiment to emulate.

    I admire Bernie Sanders, but let him relocate here and try getting a family doctor. Then, let Bernie try getting an appointment with his family doctor. My recently secured family doctor – who it took me TWO YEARS to secure – practices 30 miles from my home. He is the nearest doctor available. Appointments can be scheduled no sooner than three-weeks in advance. And the appointments are a maximum of 15 minutes, and meant to address a single issue only. This is health care? For a 65 year-old with multiple chronic health problems, why can I not pay to see a doctor sooner rather than suffer for weeks and further jeopardize my health? The answer? The antiquated Canada Health Act (CHA) and its ideologue defenders. (Notice how the most vociferous defenders of the CHA – like Dr. Martin – are usually under 45, for whom the lofty ideals of the CHA have yet to intersect with their increasing medical needs as they age, or the medical needs of their parents.)

    The bottom line is that there is not enough public money in our government-funded, single-payer system to fund the health care that Canadians deserve. And this reality continues to grow more critical with an aging demographic. It’s past time that we in Canada acknowledged that – setting aside the Australian study that threw cold water on its flawed, two-tier experiment – two-tier health care is the norm in most developed countries. They have discovered the obvious: patients who can afford to pay up-front reduce pressure on the queue for those who cannot. As a result, public dollars can then be used more efficiently within the public system. (Granted, two-tier delivery is not without its challenges. Different models of two-tier delivery have advantages and disadvantages. No country has developed the “perfect model”.)

    Of course, I expect to receive nothing but thumbs-down for these comments. I often think that a terrific “Jeopardy” answer would be, “The myth held most dear by Canadians.” The question? “What is the superiority of Canadian health care.”

    For further insight, read this article, from Forbes, written by an American resident who grew up in Canada: https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2018/01/08/democrats-idolize-canadas-health-system-as-it-recovers-from-worst-year-ever/#6bd5a5b85e69.

    America desperately needs health-care reform. Look to Europe. God save Americans from Canadian-style health care.

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